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PostSubject: Changing Palette Swaps in Battle   Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:24 pm

Something I discovered (after reading Drick's topic, Changing Creatures Summoned With Trainer's Whip) regarding Palette Swaps. As it turns out, if a monster (who has another variation of it) uses it summon able form in battle, then it's palette will swap over to that variation's palette (but it will still keep it's moveset). Here's an example of it: In-game Palette Swap

EDIT: I did some more testing (but with the same monsters)
and I need to correct what I said. If a variant (or another monster) uses a healing summon able monster, then the variant (from what I've seen) will change to that healing spell. As an added bonus, they can even change into the damaging summon able monsters, if you set it to healing and Ally. However, your game CAN AND WILL FREEZE WITH CONSECUTIVE USE! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

Video of the test:
Changing Sprites In-Battle Part 1
Changing Sprites In-Battle Part 2
Changing Sprites In-Battle Part 3
Changing Sprites In-Battle Part 4
Changing Sprites In-Battle Bonus Test

I will do 1 more test with monsters that cannot be summoned (or have a variant that cannot be summoned) to see if this only applies to monsters that can summoned (or variants that can be summoned). So far, it seems like it doesn't apply to non-summon able monster, but that will be determined with the next test.

EDIT 2: My theory was half way correct. Turns out, the first enemy in battle will be the one to change, however, if the enemy is not a variant, then it will freeze/crash the game


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PostSubject: Re: Changing Palette Swaps in Battle   Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:37 pm

That's interesting. Could think of any use for that or is it merely a cool glitch?
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Palette Swaps in Battle   Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:38 pm

It probably is a glitch since it only shows the healing
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Palette Swaps in Battle   Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:57 pm

Is it possible to switch an enemy's sprite to that of a different enemy by having them summon that other enemy?
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Palette Swaps in Battle   Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:04 pm

I did some more testing (but with the same monsters) and it turns out, it changes with healing summons. However, if you change the damaging ones to healing and set it to Ally, then that variant will change to that summon. BUT consecutive use WILL FREEZE YOUR GAME!

EDIT: Yes, but at the moment, it seems to only work with the variants.
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Palette Swaps in Battle   Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:24 pm

Perhaps, if you set the effect to moveset-swapping for a boss, you could have the guy transform into the corresponding enemy's form, and switch to a different moveset accordingly.
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Palette Swaps in Battle   Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:32 am

Oh yeah, that would be neat. In fact, it looks like there are enough blank psynergies, so... I would give that a shot (maybe with Dullahan).

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PostSubject: Re: Changing Palette Swaps in Battle   Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:29 am

Ahh, but are there enough blank monster-summon psynergies?
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Palette Swaps in Battle   Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:56 pm

I doubt it, but it might one day be possible to edit psynergy in almost any and every way.

I never realised how many things in Golden Sun are similar to Mario and Luigi.

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PostSubject: Re: Changing Palette Swaps in Battle   Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:28 am

Update: New tests have been done (and now i may have to reluctantly do another ¬.¬)
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Palette Swaps in Battle   Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:56 pm

You could change the animation that the summoned creature uses so that people don't look like they are getting hit when they get healed.
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PostSubject: Re: Changing Palette Swaps in Battle   Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:48 pm

I don't think that's the problem though... It's probably something to do with the target.

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PostSubject: Re: Changing Palette Swaps in Battle   Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:54 pm

I know it's not the problem, it would just look better.
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